Saturday, February 8, 2014

Astrological Magic & Chaotes

 Recently, Gordon over at Rune Soup interviewed Jake Stratton-Kent. During the interview, you can hear Jake discuss Pete Carroll's dismissal of astrological magic and how silly he thought this was.

What was relatively unamusing is that not long after that, I came across someone playing their "I'm a superior magician" card by bringing up Carroll's dismissal of astrological magic. That's not entirely unexpected; I've spent more than enough time hanging out with American Chaos Magicians to know that Carroll's ideas are fetishized and occasionally taken gospel.

That said, Carroll's outlook is hardly the only one to emerge from Chaos Magic circles. Another Chaote worthy of note - and who has been involved in forms of astrological magic for quite some time - is Fr. U.D.

U.D.'s High Magic series certainly has astrological magic as part of the work presented. This is relatively unsurprising, since by his own admission he was at one time a member of the Fraternitas Saturnai. Indeed, Saturn cycles are even discussed in the aforementioned works by U.D.

More recently, Jason Miller put out Advanced Planetary Magic. (You can see my review here), complete with 'sorcerous' planetary seals, and a number of other items which are well worth messing around with.

The short version of what I'm saying is this: just because one of the Chaote founders was prototypically dismissive of certain practices does not mean that the rest of us have to be, nor does his viewpoint encompass the totality of thought on such matters in Chaote circles.

At present, my Saturni-Lunar Gossip Trap remains one of the most well-liked and re-linked entries. Which I certainly would not expect if everyone simply mindlessly agreed with Carroll on everything he wrote.

Jack.

2 comments:

Francés de Jasso said...

Another chaote with writings worth reading is Frater Chorozon. He covers different fields like Gödel's incompleteness theorems, chaos dynamics, mathesis and, of course, astrology!

http://freespace.virgin.net/ecliptica.ww/book/astrolog.htm

wouldiwearitinparis said...

Once a Chaos Magician starts"mindlessly agreeing" with anything or anyone, he can no longer be called a Chaos Magician. The whole point is that you are able to take a system and make it work because you believe in it while you need to believe in it.